And just for the record, we should ALL have a buddy named Theodore Roosevelt.

frankly, i don’t see membership in these groups as mutually exclusive, and i definitely don’t think the lcv is as crazed and as maniacal as you paint them to be.

Hope you feel beter soon!

McCain has been leading on the environment for over a decade. His record in congress is pretty clear. REP has a full listing of it over there. I would encourage you to read it.

http://www.rep.org/McCain_enviro_record.html

I think that mccain’s projections for greenhouse gas reductions are lower because he favors realism over fantasies.

On Iraq, Obama would be doing voters a favor if he was honest that he won’t be pulling troops. There are a lot of his supporters that believe he will.

I don’t think i’ve ever said the GOP is progressive. To the contrary, I think the GOP is almost at rock bottom and my hope is that when they rebuild it is with a more Progressive approach. But i also don’t think the DNC is pursuing progressive goals either.

obama wholeheartedly supports multilateralism, and i believe he can build a substantive coalition with our powerful allies to stave off the violence and create more than a nominal government in iraq.

here is an article from the council on foreign relations, written in early june, and describing an apparent struggle between “realists” and “neocons” among his foreign policy (and other) advisers …

http://www.cfr.org/publication/16194/foreign_policy_brain_trusts.html

i simply do not see what you see in your portrait of a republican party that is progressive and shedding its neocon (and — slightly off the main topic: evangelical) extremism.

here is the cfr article re: obama’s foreign policy advisers, etc.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/16188/foreign_policy_brain_trusts.html

i think mccain’s zero rating might be due to the fact that he was absent at all the votes on various environmental legislation.

compare his voting record …

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/bio/keyvotes/?id=192&congress=1102&lvl=C

to obama’s …

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/bio/keyvotes/?id=3181&congress=1102&lvl=C

just in case there was, perhaps, an error in the accounting, i checked hillary clinton’s record …

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/bio/keyvotes/?id=10902&congress=1102&lvl=C

and the record of the two senators from kentucky …

bunning …

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/bio/keyvotes/?id=263&congress=1102&lvl=C

and mcconnell …

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/bio/keyvotes/?id=262&congress=1102&lvl=C

it seems like N’s really are “no” and Y’s are “yes” and ?’s are “absent” … mccain’s got A LOT of ?s …

and regardless of the sanity level you assign the lcv … an empty voting record is an empty voting record …

and if mccain is left of obama on environmental plans, then why does mccain expect a 60% decrease in greenhouse gasses by 2050 with his plan, while obama projects and 80% reduction of same with his?

i will give you one thing … obama — being from a farm state — has supported tariff and other subsidy legislation that mccain has opposed.

I have never liked ’scorecards’ based on voting records because they are skewed.

Let’s look at the big ones:

environment – McCain is actually left of obama.

gay marriage – virtually identical positions

NAFTA – identical positions

jobs creation – identical

drug policy – identical

And if you want to talk about Iraq, neither one of them is pulling troops if things stay like this, so again, they aren’t much different.

really?

the league of conservation voters currently lists john mccain with a score of 0%.

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/dbq/vote_info/?sort=Last&command=results&last=mccain&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=go

the lcv lists obama with a score of 67%.

http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/dbq/vote_info/?sort=Last&command=results&last=obama&submit.x=14&submit.y=16&submit=go

naral gives mccain a score of 0%.

http://www.naral.org/choice-action-center/in-congress/congressional-record-on-choice/arizona.html

they give obama a score of 100%.

http://www.naral.org/choice-action-center/in-congress/congressional-record-on-choice/illinois.html

the u.s. chamber of commerce give mccain a score of 100% and obama a score of 55%.

http://capwiz.com/chamber/scorecard/?chamber=S&session=1092&x=17&y=9

and then there’s that whole iraq thing …

As for being a Bush clone, I disagree. Bush’s administration was marked by a neo-con foreign policy and an evangelical approach to social issues. I don’t see McCain favoring either. I expect him to be more Reagan-esque on foreign policy and fairly moderate on social issues. If you look at everything other than healthcare and taxes, he’s not too different from Obama.